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November 10, 2009

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Jon & Susan,
One of the other blogs I follow came up with this entry today: http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2009/11/the-why-imperative.html
Similar I think, to what you said. If I get to attend COMMON in spring, I'll miss seeing you, but also understand.
BTW, I would have never blinked at Susan being part of the YIPs, Jon -- a different story. :>)

Dave B

Dave B: Jon's a kid at heart.

Jon and Susan,

Without the British wit and the Irish wit, I'll be stuck with the Half-wit!

Truly Au Revoir as I am optimistic we will see an evolution in COMMON that will bring things back into alignment.

You two are too valuable to lose and I wish you nothing but success!

Welcome to iManifest!

Mike

Jon and Susan, your work with LUGs is both legendary and much appreciated. I'm glad to see that LUGs are still in your priority list.

As we grow here in the Tennessee Valley Users Group (www.tvmug.info), I look forward to being able to invite you for a visit to Chattanooga in the near future.

All the best....and thanks for the past.

DR2

Jon & Susan,

You will definitely be missed at COMMON. Certainly, I will miss the sessions and the jocular banter in between. Hopefully the "old" COMMON will be back very soon and we'll see you both there again.

In the meantime, we at iManifest are thrilled to have you and Susan join us.

- Jeff

I will miss you also. My sentiments are very similar as I only signed up for 1 session this year vs. the 6 to 7 I was planning before the COMMON-neglects-speakers announcement.

Has COMMON released any additional press on their direction other than what we received a couple months ago?

This is truly a tantalizing post. By that, I mean that's interesting, and it whets your appetite for more information.

Scott, I agree with you that this is quite interesting because to me it is a formal declaration for a change in direction as it relates to educating. Jon/Susan, it sounds like there was more to the decision than just the lack of speaker compensation (as you mentioned). Is there anything you can share without stepping on too many toes?

What do people think the next generation of IT training looks like? Being that I travel 8 to 10 times a year, I tend to like the local or virtual training methods, though I know that face-time is often king when it comes to really becoming enthused about a topic.

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

Jon & Susan, you'll be missed at COMMON, but their loss is someone else's gain (as it always is). I look forward to seeing (more of) you at other conferences and on the Web.

I join the chorus in saying you will be missed. Glad there are still lots of venues where you can share your knowledge and experience. You have a special way of bonding with your audience, whether it be YiP kind of folks or good ol' RPG III veterans. I too would like to see a vision of where you would like to see COMMON go.

Jon and Susan,
Both of you have been very inspiring and I really took the what I learned at COMMON '08 in your sessions and revolutionized my ideas on what I can do with iSeries development. You will be missed.

Finances are finances and you have to make ends meet and be financially sound in these times. No one can afford any losses. I applaud you for doing what is right.

I too am concerned about COMMON and over all about the i - Community. I appreciate all the time that you two commit to helping us in the trenches everyday do our jobs better and really be craftsman with our skills.

Thanks also to Aaron Bartell and Scott Klemment if you are reading. We got to stick together.

- Mike Moegling

You could say that the organization has come to treat its speakers with unCOMMON disregard...

Scott said: "By that, I mean that's interesting, and it whets your appetite for more information."

Aaron said: "Jon/Susan, it sounds like there was more to the decision than just the lack of speaker compensation ..."

Since these two posts seem to ask the same question ...

I think in the various posts we referenced (as well as this blog) we covered most of the points.

It started off being a financial consideration - or so we thought. Could we afford the extra $2,000+ in a tight economy for very little personal benefit. We hoped that COMMON might review their decision - they didn't. We hoped the market would turn round - it didn't. So we had to look long and hard at whether we should continue to do it.

(I always found it amusing that attendees at COMMON always assumed that all the speakers were being paid)

When we actually thought about it (as opposed to running on auto-pilot and just anteing up because it was time for COMMON again) we came to the realization that if we attended we would be significantly out-of-pocket in order to support something that we no longer believed was fulfilling its mission.

Simply put (from my perspective - Susan may not agree with me) - COMMON today is focused solely on existing because it exists. It doesn't know _why_ it should continue to exist, or whether it has a real role in life. It has taken on the characteristics of a life-form, intent on fighting for its survival just for the sake of it. As a result, in its desperation, it has developed a nasty tendency to attack its biggest supporters.

As to the future of the organization - Personally I have said many times that I believe that one route forward for COMMON is to convert to a trade organization (it long ago ceased to a User Group in anything other than name)--i.e., representing the vendors in the marketplace. Let the vendors vote for the board (the voting for which
has been badly broken for years) and run the main conference as a trade show. Maybe that trade show travels and occurs three/four times a year - maybe in partnership with other conference organizers or User
Group consortiums - or ... Alongside the trade show maybe run a real User Group event offering low-cost education. COMMON's real role would be as the vendor's trade organization - thereby giving vendors a real voice with IBM that most of them lack right now.

Hope this clarifies a bit.

Jon & Susan,

I agree with you completely. I myself am taking a similar road. I hope we meet along the way.

Jon and Susan,

it is really sad not to meet you next year at Orlando. Even though I understand attitude.In either way I'll miss you next year in Orlando.

It is even harder for us. Since IBM decided to no longer send any speakers to the European COMMON Conferences on Country Level. The last years there were several speakers from Rochester and/or Toronto, such as Alison Butterill, George Farr, Claus Weiss or Jarek Miszyzk and not to forget Frank Solits, who told us the latest news and the further plans. This year nobody will be sent from there! We'll only get some general summaries from IBM. Even though there are several really good speakers here in Germany, nobody is as close as the IBMer's or you (Jon and Susan) to the development in Toronto and Rochester.

In this way several of us decided to participate in the USA COMMON Conference next year to get more information and better education than here in Germany.

The German COMMON Conference will take place tomorrow on Monday/Tuesday November 16th/17th 2009. This year I'll expect even less participants than last year, which was IIRC the smallest number of participants a German COMMON Conference ever had.

BTW even though I'll held several sessions at this German COMMON Conference, I'll get any money for it, but have to pay 250 € (the reduced attendee fee for speakers) instead.

I feel, COMMON will get weaker and weaker until it will be disappeared all over the world.
... and with it will IBM i(Series) and RPG disapear?

Birgitta

Jon and Susan, you guys talked about the "old" COMMON. I'd like to hear what is your definition of the "old" COMMON.


ps: I know you guys have been very supported of the system i as I see it too.

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