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June 16, 2011


Nathan Andelin

I never had an opportunity to work on an S/38 but a former colleague of mine had been working on S/34 and described the S/38 as a "real computer, finally!".

I gathered that the S/38 supported externally defined screen and data files within RPG; my colleague's productivity took a giant leap forward. One could finally focus on business systems design without putting too much thought into development tools.

Again, my personal experience doesn't go back that far, but people were saying that the S/38 was a real computer, finally!


Yes. I noticed that too in the press release. No mention of S/38. Sad.

BTW, does Jon like restaurant for the beer? When you guys visit Toronto, go to the distillery district. I think you will find something to your liking :)

Pete Helgren

Almost commodity pricing on hardware and IBM i O/S doesn't require an army of administrators or consultants to run. No wonder it gets no respect: it isn't expensive enough or difficult enough to use (great for customers, bad for revenue generation....)

Take my Windows Server (please!)

Jon Paris

@anurag Actually we live in Toronto (or to be precise Mississauga because proximity to the airport is important to us). We haven't been to the distillery district yet - but there are a few bottles of Mill Street's Tankhouse in the fridge - not a bad beer. And now of course there is a Trois Brasseur in Toronto - of course it is called Three Brewers which made it hard for us to find but ...

Jon Paris

@Pete Love the "Take my ..." comment.

But you are 100% correct - I have been saying for some time that sadly there is little incentive for IBM to heavily promote IBM i. They make most of their money on services - the old days of IBM wanting to develop a lifetime customer with full hardware, services and software are long gone. As you say IBM i doesn't need the levels of service that Windows or Unix do - so why push it.

Sad that even a knowledgable (and honest) SAP consultant will tell you that IBM i is the best platform on which to run SAP - but think anyone ever recommends it? Why would you when you can gouge the customer for at least 3X the revenue by promoting it on another platform.

Hans Boldt

Hi Jon and Susan!

The iSeries is a good system. You know that, I know that.

I had a look at that IBM 100 list. My first observation is that most of the technologies are software, not hardware. For the few items of hardware, there are some truly revolutionary pieces of machinery. For example, the 360 pretty much defined the term "mainframe".

Does the S/38 (and family) belong on the list? Unfortunately, the S/38 has not had the same kind of influence on the computer world as the other machines. For example, how many other computers use single level store? Interesting technology, yes. But no one is beating a path to IBM's door for single level store, and few other companies are copying it.

Cheers! Hans

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